Monday afternoon I received an e-mail from the so called “web-master” of the Makro (Makro Cash and Carry) stores with a request to remove my links to the Makro website. If you look in the left column you will find a list of links and in the ‘shopping’ section are two hyperlinks to the ‘folder’ of the makro. This is a bi-weekly updated advertisement with all the promotions they offer to their customers. As a frequent Makro customer I made a link in the list instead of having to use a bookmark all the time. So now mr. Lex Veldhuis of the Makro requests me in an e-mail to remove these links. In a polite reply I asked the man the reasons behind this request, which was answered with a mail repeating the request to remove the links but no explanation whatsoever. To give the man a chance to explain himself and convince me of removal of my links I made clear that his reaction was not an answer to my question, so gave him another chance to provide me that answer. This time mr Lex Veldhuis became a little more agitated and replied in a rather arrogant sounding e-mail stating “I don’t owe you an explanation” and “an answer is absolutely not relevant to you”. In case mr Veldhuis doesn’t know relevancy is determined by the receiver/listener and not predefined by the person having to answer the question. Of course there is no relevancy in that answer because there is no relevant answer to the question anyways. In this e-mail mr Veldhuis concluded with the message that if the links weren’t removed by thursday “they would take legal action against me”. I am curious what that action will be, because according to dutch law and previous cases this is perfectly legal, this website has NO commercial goal nor does it make negative remarks about the Makro. Contrary I provide a link to their advertisement without anything back. Why? because it’s easy for me to just click there to see whats on sale. And I know some friends, who visit my website, do the same thing. In my last reply to mr Veldhuis I offered him a last chance to explain in a clear way what is illegal in making a hyperlink to a website, and if he could not send back an e-mail with an answer this time I asked him not to reply because I would recognize this as unsollicited e-mail, which is according to privacy laws illegal. I will keep you updated. Here is a link to the e-mail conversations in dutch, to go with Adam Curry “There are no Secrets”
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11 comments
Bart says:
Sep 25, 2003
This has the potential of becoming better than many soaps on tv! “Real internet” instead of “Real tv”… Can’t wait for the sequel! Come on mr Veldhuis!
Stefan says:
Sep 25, 2003
hahahahahaha… this is wonderful. found this through mijnkopthee, who noted a similar case in teh ToS of Sterrenbeurs. Following his and your lead, just to annoy Makro and Sterrenbeurs, I’ve played deeplinks on my weblog as well
van DUijn says:
Sep 26, 2003
Keep us informed! geat!!
JW says:
Sep 26, 2003
Nice story
. But: you now display your e-mail conversation online. Wouldn’t that be illegal according to the same privacy laws?
Marko says:
Sep 26, 2003
De folder van 30-9-2003 t/m 13-10-2003 is ook al te bekijken via:
http://www.makro.nl/papernewsfolder/20/
Nannette says:
Sep 26, 2003
pfffwoehahahhahaha!
You go Girl….ehum…. Guy
Loving it, living it!
Mjam, mjam, mjam
Emiel says:
Sep 29, 2003
http://www.lukasklamer.nl/papernewsfolder/19/index.html
Another metro cash and carry company.
Same folder as the one of the Makro.
Same lack of protection
Same webmaster ?
And yes the 000000000 trick works here also.
Something strange :
Maktro Belgium doesn’t have its folder ‘secured’. Just go to http://www.makro.be
Click on Folder and voila, the folder
Reffles says:
Sep 29, 2003
Hahaha, this is snowballing in a hurry:
http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Veldhuis+%2B+makro&btnG=Google+zoeken&lr=lang_nl
Good luck on Thursday
Dorku says:
Sep 29, 2003
Whahaha, this is nice. It seems thath Velthuis guy got himself in some trouble by threatening you. I don’t think he expected a reaction like yours.
Keep it up
Ruben says:
Sep 30, 2003
Het ligt ook deels aan de beveiliging”, erkent Veldhuis. “Dat gaan we ook oplossen.”
Als mijnheer Veldhuis dit leest: wat een ongelofelijke disgrace ben je voor iedereen die zich webmaster noemt. ‘t Is leuk dat de Makro aan werkverschaffing doet voor mensen met een IQ lager dan 10 (eveneens bij de Marketing-afdeling getuige het interview bij Webwereld), maar je ziet wat ervan komt.
ArjanL says:
Sep 30, 2003
Great laugh! I will call mr Veldhuis to offer an anti-spam solution
His mailbox will probably be full at this moment.